In this clip, Michael Jai White and Vlad talked about the world of bodybuilding and the psychology behind those who enter the sport. Michael said the thought process behind those who become bodybuilders compares to the mentality of a fighter but added that they both have unsatisfying financial returns. He also talked about some of his friends in the bodybuilding world, pointing out longtime friend and famed bodybuilder Troy Alves actually got him into formal martial arts classes.